Meet some of the people who comprisedthe early '80s San Diego punk/hardcore/mod scene and now gather on the Che Underground blog from their respective walks of life:
Toby "Lifehater" Gibson, bass, Personal Conflict
Role within the scene: "I was the bassist for Personal Conflict. I went bythe names Tobylifehater & Toby Thunderbird. I was often called lesscomplimentary names. Aside from playing bass I was totally into thechaos, getting into trouble and having a good time (band site with pictures and flyers).
Point of entry: "I began to get into punk on a limited basis in response to my exile to my dad's house out in the sticks after a few unfortunate misunderstandings between myself and the local constabulary. That would be around late '80, early '81. When I was allowed to return to the beach area during the summer of '81, I found the punk scene showing itself here and there, and I became involved with a group of kids I knew who were heading the same direction. By the end of that summer our vocalist (Lloyd Masing, RIP) noticed my messed up haircut and asked me if the sunburn on my reverse mohawk was painful. Then he asked me if I played an instrument. I told him yeah, guitar – and he recruited me to play bass in Personal Conflict. We weren't the best band in San Diego and we weren't there to make pop favorites. We were all about the chaos, the craziness, beer, drugs and girls. We had a very good time, and the people that came to see us were there to see what kind of nutty stuff would go down. I hope we didn't disappoint them."
Reaction to the Che Underground blog: "The Che Underground blog has turned out to be super informative, clearing up a lot of stuff I've wondered about for years and unearthing a vast wealth of San Diego music history that otherwise would most likely never have seen the light of day. The music scene was eclectic in its sounds and a lot of bands were very loyal to the anti-corporate stance that was well ahead of our time. We were ignored by the media and harassed by the powers that be, hated by the San Diego Police Department and still the shows went on, the 'zines were printed and distributed – all pre-internet and pre-home computer. Most kids today have no clue how much work that was back in the day, making the stuff by hand, advertising however you could and distributing on foot. It was an analog world and we not only embraced it, but we took it as far as we could, most of us not even old enough to enter the bars we were playing in. We would have killed for a computer, scanner, printer, and protools back in the day. If we had that stuff we'd be running the show today. (But hey – we're everywhere anyways!)"
A favorite story from back then: "Read my Che blog post for August 8th, my birthday. It's a memorial to my best friend who died when I was in my early twenties. I'm a writer – I have at least twenty best stories from back in the day. ;)"
How music has affected his life in general: "I think I have between 3,000 and 5,000 CDs at the present moment. I don't know very many people who aren't totally into music. It's funny, a lot of the old punks, when you leaf through their collection of vinyl and CDs, you find a lot of the same stuff. DOA, Miles Davis, Lou Reed, Prokofiev, Coltrane, Steel Pulse, The Jam, Buzzcocks – it's an eclectic bunch, and we seem to suffer from a collective case of musical attention deficit disorder. I shoot photography and my favorite subject is low light, no flash live band stuff. I still write and record music, and I still play with a couple groups of people here and there. I love music. I don't even have a TV or cable- but the whole house is wired for sound."
Current activities: "Today I am packing up my stuff to move to Oahu, where I'll probably work a job, write, create music and spend time with my kids. For the past twenty years I've been a carpenter and run a construction company, I've been a city councilman, I've raced Hawaiian outrigger canoes, raced open ocean paddleboards and practiced and taught freestyle kickboxing and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu. I've lost more than a couple friends to the ravages of adolescence and the grind of urban life, I've won and I've lost, I've had my heart broken a couple times and would do it all over again. I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up, but I know I don't want to be part of the rat race, and as far as that goes, in the wise words of Roger Daltrey, we won't get fooled again."
Paul Kaufman, drums, Manual Scan
Role within the scene: "Apart from going to a lot of the early punkshows in SD, I was the first drummer for Manual Scan, one of the firstMod bands in town. This was in 1981. But since I moved away thefollowing year, I heard about many of the stories second hand from mylifelong friends from that era, Matthew Rothenberg and DavidFleminger. So, I enjoyed much of this scene vicariously, and wroteabout it in a way to portray the mythic status it had in my mind. Someof that became the Lemons Are Yellow album I did with Dave and KristinMartin."
Point of entry: "I started out liking the music of the 60s as ayoung kid, and when the punk scene exploded in England in 1977, I
learned about it as a 13-year-old Rodney on the ROQ listener. Once I
realized a small punk scene was developing, I started to go to shows atthe North Park Lion's Club. Pre-Henry Rollins Black Flag, Adolescents,
etc. My connection to Dave and Kristin began, of all things, via aschool project! We all went to different schools, but there was acreative exchange program in the gifted program, and as rock-mindedyoung kids, we got together and did a band. I also knew Kevin Ringfrom the gifted program at my school (starting in the 4th grade), andthat's how I got into Manual Scan. So I can thank the San Diego CitySchools on both counts.
Reaction to the Che Underground blog: "It's been a blast hearingsome music from that time and reconnecting with people. Also, since I
left San Diego before many of the events described on the websitehappened, I'm getting to know a lot of the folks for the first time, soit's been especially enlightening."
A favorite story from back then: "One episode I recounted on thesite was when Matthew and Dave took me down to Tijuana to Emilio's, asmall folk music club. We took the stage, and delved into animpromptu, face-melting version of 'Interstellar Overdrive.' Culturaland musical dissonance, all at the same time! I'd say that was theheight of my (limited) live performance career."
How music has affected his life in general: "Up until the last fewyears, I was always going to shows, and music had always been my mainhobby. That's slowed down a lot in the last few years
since I moved away from the Bay Area and I don't stay up so late anymore."
Current activities: "I'm a professor at a medical school. I leftSan Diego in 1982 to go to college, and although I went back for somesummers and other vacations, I've been pursuing biology research as mymain gig for over twenty years now."
Jeffrey Luck Lucas, bass, The Morlocks
Role within the scene: "Musician (primarily a bass player), songwriter, friend."
Point of entry: "Answering an ad in the Reader, alocal weekly paper and meeting a fellow young musician and friend DaveFleminger. We clicked as musicians and friends. We started a band. Hewas basically a gateway into the whole scene for me."
Reaction to the Che Underground blog: "It's very strange for me.
Yes, it has awakened a whole slew of memories. Ghosts come alive. I wasreally surprised so many of us were healthy and intact. It's also beenenjoyable seeing through others' eyes and memories, our sharedexperiences. Not all of this has been comfortable, of course. I was noangel on many levels."
A favorite story from back then: "Most of my favorite stories areeither not suitable for print or incriminating to myself or others...
or simply not believable."
How music has affected his life in general: "It is my life. In general and in particular."
Current activities: "I am a musician, making records– both my ownand others'. Playing, touring, writing... it's my Devil's bargain I
made with the world. Music has my soul; I have... this. No complaints.
I've just always been making music. I took a bit of a break fromthinking it could be a full-time endeavor in pop music and went toschool and finished my classical studies, but I've pretty much beendoing the same thing like a bullet shot from a gun."
Kristin Martin, vocals/guitar/bass, Noise 292
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Role within the scene__ : "I sang and played rhythm guitar and bass inNoise 292 and later in other San Diego-based bands (Synesthesia,
Apparition, Sweat Engine)."
Point of entry: "Well, in 1981, I
was in a somewhat of a 'joke' band called 'Lemons Are Yellow,' whichwas formed for a one-off gig at a conference for high-school giftedstudents. We re-formed many years later, since we all lived in the SanFrancisco Bay Area, and released a CD in 2005 called 'Destroy AllMusic.'
"I suppose my first 'real' band experience was Noise292. Oddly enough, I was introduced to Matthew (Rothenberg, bassist forthe band) during my first year at UC San Diego. The connection wasthrough my stepdad, who had been a professor at UCSD. He knew Matthew'sdad Jerome Rothenberg (also at UCSD at the time). Matthew was looking for musicians to start a band, so I gave him a call and the rest is history.
Reactionto the Che Underground blog: "It's fabulous that Matthew has taken onthe founding of such a great source of information and has managed totrack down so many people from that time. It's interesting to see wherepeople are at now. I contributed many of my old cassettes to bedigitized, and some gig flyers and photos. I wish I had more time toparticipate in some of the discussions!
A favorite story fromback then: "I think my favorite story is when Matthew kicked me out ofNoise 292. I still have the letter. I won't go into detail – it'swater under the bridge now, but I remember feeling pretty bad about itfor a long time. Those teenage dramas seem really silly now!"
Howmusic has affected her life in general: "I work as a multimediadesigner/developer, and music and audio play a big role in myday-to-day tasks. I'm currently co-teaching a course in digital audio post-production at an online film school called fx phd. David Fleminger, also from the Che Undergroundscene, is the other professor. It's both interesting and challenging towork with people who have been your friends for so many years!"
Currentactivities: "As mentioned above, I'm a multimedia designer/developer.
I've always tried to make creative pursuits part of my life, and thatis probably why I am in this line of work."
Mark Mullen, drums, The Wallflowers, The Morlocks
Role within the scene: "I played in The WallFlowers and The Morlocksas well as hung out all over the place. I did help promote as well."
Pointof entry: "I started in the San Diego punk scene andwent to shows starting at around 13 years old – I remember walking downmy street at 3 am after seeing Bad Brains and Husker Du.
When the punk scene which I loved started to turn bad, and ��the jocks andstoners who used to beat you up were now the ones at the shows, turningit violent, I migrated away from that scene into the Che scene forlack of a better word. Playing in The Wallflowers was a blast and thatled us to form The Morlocks. Now, we were a pretty raw band, '60��spunk fit my drumming, and all was golden again."
Reaction to theChe Underground blog: " I have really enjoyed the blog – brings backsome great memories and it�'s good to see how everyone is doing afterall of these years. As my kids get older they are more into music andask a lot of questions about back then, I think this is good to stir itup and preserve it forever. You must remember that the blog and stirredup memories are about 10 percent of what really went on."
A favoritestory from back then: "Sounds crazy but there are so many. I would haveto say hanging out at Presidio Park; this served as the hanging groundfor all of us wild teens, from punks to mods."
How music hasaffected his life in general: "It has been fun for me. I'm glad I have really goodmemories and a few albums we recorded from that period of my life.
There were and still are many who could not handle the drugs, and havenever left that lifestyle. The last 10 or so years I really do noteven listen to music but very rarely. When I do I enjoy the same stufffrom 20 years ago. I will throw on DOA, The Misfits or mostly one of The Morlocks' CDs."
Current activities: "I live about an hourNorth of Atlanta now, I moved from SF to Florida for about five years andhave been up here for 12 years. I have three great kids, twin boys who are seven, and my daughter is 12. Other than work, I spend all of my time with mykids – we are either out on the lake in our boat or in the RV all overthe country racing motocross. My kids race nationally and we just gotback from the Amateur Nationals where my daughter is now ranked 21st inthe nation, and my son was 5th last year. I have been working in the audio-visual industry for a long time now; I am the regional managerfor Florida and the Caribbean for FSR, Inc. The transition was one ofnecessity. The Morlocks were big and could have done great things, but theband was falling apart with too many ego and drug problems. I went toelectronics school, went to work at Apple and never looked back.
Except for now with the Che blog, of course."
David J. Rinck, vocals, The Wallflowers
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Role within the scene__ : "I was the singer and co-founder, andsometimes songwriter for the Wallflowers, one of the Che Undergroundbands. I also organized a fair share of the scene's concerts. Plus I
spent a lot of time talking up early American underground music, apassion of mine, and what I see as an remedy for the crass masshyper-commercialization of our culture, and thus potentially a path tosalvation."
Point of entry: "Okay, I had played bass when I wasabout 14 with local SD punk rock bands, but I met my fellow Wallflowerswhen they were playing in a band at a party in San Diego about 1981.
They liked my white sharkskin jacket and fire engine red hair, so theyasked me to sing a Beatles song with them. I of course refused, butthen agreed to sing 'No Fun' by the Stooges, which upon theiracquiescence I taught them on the lawn out front. It was love at firstsight, and we immediately decided we should do our duty to theunderground and form a band. Here's a good account of the band's history."
Reaction to the Che Underground blog: "The blog is fantastic. Mattis doing such a good job, we owe him a tremendous debt of gratitude forbringing all of us back together. Of course, the blog brings back lotsof memories of just how unique the Che Underground scene was, and whata formative experience it was for us."
A favorite story from back then: "Probably the big DaveFestconcerts. We had three DaveFests, basically all day blow outs with asmany bands as we could get away with. The first two were stopped by ourguardians in the SDPD, but the third one was a real blast, with like 10
bands all day at the Che Café. The night before, we attended a longmeeting with the organizers at the Che Café on security, so we couldplan how to pull off the event without trashing the place, and ofcourse immediately after the security meeting, we pulled the vendingmachines out onto the lawn and used them as toboggans. I almost missedDaveFest three when I woke up the next morning with four flat tirescourtesy of my friend who had thrown bottles under the car while were-created American Graffiti by drag racing down the 805 highway atfour in the morning."
"No, that was just youthful exuberance, my real favorite times werewriting music with my bandmates in our studio at Greenwich Village West(an artist colony in downtown SD), and playing concerts with ourfriends at places like Studio 517. I co-founded the Wallflowers with mygood friend Paul Howland. The times we spent together were the bestmemories. We used to go downtown and play pinball at Funland, and seeall these horrible bums and winos, and then we used to go sit on thisold drain pipe near his house and smoke cigarettes and talk for hours,
and try to figure out what we were going to do with all that big vastpossibility of life in front on us, and think about how we could makethe most of i, and avoid ending up homeless crazies like those guys onlower Broadway."
How music has affected his life in general: "All of our culturalexpression, not just music, has inspired me in a million ways to thinkfor myself and see the endless possibilities out there."
Current activities: "I'm a US diplomat now, I work for the Agencyfor International Development (USAID), posted to Nairobi, Kenya. Musicinspired me to travel the world and learn as much as I could about itduring the short time I'm here. After the Che Underground, I studiedeconomics at the University of Chicago, and then started working as aneconomist all over the world. I've traveled to over 120 countries now."
Matthew Rothenberg, bass/guitar, Noise 292
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Role within the scene__ : "I was co-founder of Noise 292 in late '82. I sang, played bass and guitar (as well as 'S&M tambourine'
on our rendition of Bob Dylan's 'Subterranean Homesick Blues.') As oneof the UCSD contingent in our scene, I also played a role in stakingout the campus' Che Café vegetarian co-op as a location for San Diego'selectric fringe ca. '83 – hence the name of the site. After Noise 292
dissolved in late '84, I formed 3 Guys Called Jesus and played guitarand sang with that group until I left San Diego in February '87."
Point of entry: "I
went to San Dieguito High School up in Encinitas; while I interactedwith the punk scene starting around age 14 (courtesy of some older,
hipper friends), much of my creative focus in high school was on thetheater department of Clayton Liggett, an extremely talented directorwho Eddie Vedder made justly famous. Starting college and focusing onmusic as my creative outlet brought me and a few of my high schoolfriends into contact with a musically adventurous group of young SanDiegans, starting with Noise 292 co-founder Kristin Martin. Spring andsummer 19'83, it seemed like we were meeting great new bands every weekfrom all corners of San Diego County."
Reaction to the Che Underground blog: "I'm delighted and very grateful for all the enthusiasm! When I startedtalking to the other musicians, I wasn't even sure if they felt asdeeply about the 'Che Underground' scene as I did. It's very moving –
here in Maplewood, New Jersey, 3,000 miles and 25 years removed – to find somuch passion and excitement for a time that meant so much to me. I'm very proud of what kind of adults all my friends havegrown up to be, and I'm very pleased at how intelligently we can putall the pieces together now. The posts about specific music or bandsare great, and folks have been fantastically generous about sharingtheir treasures. But I'm proudest of the posts where people have talkedabout who they are now – about their jobs, their identities, theirtattoos, their kids, their current playlists – and how those days inthe San Diego underground continue to inform the choices they maketoday."
A favorite story from back then: "In a thread about strange gigs we played I told the story about the evening Noise 292 played a Jesse Jacksonpresidential benefit: 'Between the scrap metal and the cross-dressing andthe affinity forthe Velvet Underground’s second album, Noise 292 was nobody’s idea of acrossover band. One of our oddest gigs was a Jesse Jackson presidentialbenefit at Pea Soup Andersen's
in Carlsbad, California, which we were asked to play by a friend of(scrap-metal percussionist Wendell Kling's) parents. The event tookplace in the very green conference hall upstairs, and(aside from the organizer and a team of high-school break dancers he’dalso recruited to entertain) I believe we were the only white people inattendance. The bulk of our large audience seemed to be affluent,
middle-aged to elderly pillars of San Diego’s African-Americancommunity, and it was hard to imagine our interpretation of 'SisterRay' going over particularly well. (I learned the term 'ofay' thatafternoon from one of the spectators watching the break dancers.)
'We turned the volume down and decided to play our threeleast-industrial numbers; I can still remember hitting that first bassnoteand watching an elderly lady in the front row clap her handsover her ears and double up in agony. People fled that room like theyhad to catch the last helicopter out of Saigon! By the middle of thesecond song, we were all alone in the conference room — except for theorganizer, who congratulated us warmly and suggested we should open forSantana at another rally in LA.'"
How music has affected his life in general: "Itwas the social glue that brought me together with some of my closestfriends. Music is a profound aesthetic experience for me, but it's alsoan enormously important sociological phenomenon. Those flyers and'zines and cassettes and gigs WERE our social network, which makesresuming this conversation feel so natural after a gap of more than 20
years."
Current activities: "I've worked inpublishing since the late '80s and Web content since the mid-'90s. Thisweek, I start as the director of editorial and content for TheLadders,
an extremely savvy and exciting company dedicated to connectingexecutive job seekers with recruiters online. (I've also heard thereare some excellent musicians in the office, so I'm interested inexploring the sonic possibilities there as well.)"
Sergio, vocals, Hair Theatre
Role within the scene: "I was singer and song writer for HairTheatre, or should I say I thought of them and we all put themtogether. It was good to be in a band in which I knew I could rely oneachindividual member to fill in the holes with what I consider was rawtalent. And it was fun to hang around with everybody. I used to thinkwe were the coolest cats in town!"
Point of entry: "I was a young punk in the San Diego scene. I went to many shows, sawmany bands and maybe out of boredom decided I could form my own band.
At this point I had become very influenced by the '60s so I knew myband would be somewhat different. We didn't have a place to practice at so one day I saw this shack onthe side of a house, I got up the nerve to go up to their door andknocked. A long haired man answered and I nervously said I was starting a bandand needed a place to rehearse. I told him we'd keep it cool and evenpay for electricity and much to my surprise he agreed!! So we started rehearsing our first songs, put a set together and wereplaying at parties in no time. We started meeting other bands andpeople (like Matthew Rothenberg of Noise 292) who arranged our firstshow at the Che in the summer of 1983."
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favorite story from back then: "There are many good memories and mostof them I'd rather not mention. But since violence is more sociallyacceptable than sex I'll tell you about this one show we did with theMorlocks at this place called the Emerald Ballroom in San Diego. It wasour time to play so we started making our way to the stage when halfway there some meathead decides to insult me. So I tell him to fuckoff, which results in him punching me in the face!! Now mind you he istwo times bigger than me so I flew about five feet in the air beforelanding in my bandmate's arms, a bleeding mess!! This prompted aunified reaction that to this day I am proud of having been the martyrfor – that asshole and his friends were chased the hell out ofDodge!!! And as for me, I cleaned and the show went on of course.
Kristen Tobiason, Muse/Artist
Role within the scene:
"My role was a little like Arwen in Lord of the Rings: part muse, partscenery, the girlfriend of a central character. I dated Tommy Clarkefrom the Wallflowers,(later in the Morlocks), for a few years. I
contributed drawings for flyers, wrote poetry and tagged along with theboys. I was quiet but stylish. My clothes were fabulous and I wore themwell, aspiring to iconic fashionistas like Edie Sedgewick and MarianneFaithful. Appearance became real important when the Morlocks were infull swing and we girls were pretty competitive with each other. Theboys maybe more so. Tommy took longer than I did to get ready to goout. He'd ask me to press his shirts for him and starch the collar andcuffs. The guys would shine their beatle boots, peg their own pants andwear cufflinks!"
Point of entry: "I starteddating the guitarist from the Wallflowers when I was sixteen. I'd siton top of the washing machine in (singer) Dave Rinck's garage,
listening to the band practice. I think – like many young,
teenage girls – we tend to absorb whatever our boyfriends are interestedin, which is a shame, but it is what it is. I brought my own literaryand music interests, but the relationship gave me opportunity to expandthem on a social level. When I started going to shows, I was not evenremotely 'cool.' Looking like I had dove into a thriftstore dumpster, I
had a self-expressive, eclectic thing going. One night a couplescenester girls came over and fixed me up to fit the part. I liked theattention that the look got me, so I changed."
Reaction to theChe Underground blog: "The blog has been a blast! And healing - many ofthose memories were very distant and painful. It's been a way toreconnect with people, but from a place of confidence and maturity. I
appreciate the creativity and qualities of individuals much more now."
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favorite story from back then: "Southern California has changed somuch! The real estate boom sort of raped the landscape. I miss seeingcows on the trip up to Disneyland! One of my favorite stories is a tripto L.A. with the Wallflowers. The singer David Rinck had a VW Bug thatcould barely run – in fact, towards the end it couldn't turn left, buthe still drove it! Tommy, Paul Howland (bass player for theWallflowers) and I piled in and drove up north to see the MauMaus at aroller rink that I think was in the San Fernando area. I don't rememberthe show too much. It was like every other punk show – aggressive,
repetitive, 5 second songs. Los Angeles hardcore.
"At four inthe morning we got eats at the infamous Oki-Dogs, a wee hours oasis toyou'd get some grease to sop up all the alcohol you'd been drinking.
An Oki-Dog was hot dogs in a tortilla with cheese and pastrami on it.
As a health conscious vegetarian I can't tell you how much my stomachcurdles at the thought. When the sun came up we drove home. The I-5,
in the stretch between Anaheim and San Clemente, was an expanse offields and orange groves. Yes. Orange County used to have oranges. Lotsof them. The best part of the venture was pulling over on the freeway,
scrambling over the fence and stealing fresh oranges to take home. Thesimple pleasures.....I miss them."
How music has affected herlife in general: "Love the music. We all loved music - that was thecenter of the hub and the scene sprang from that. I can't help butthink of that movie High Fidelity with John Cusack. He categorized hisrecords by what girlfriend he had at the time. Music has run asoundtrack through the many chapters of my life. I remember spending myallowance at Tower Records on Sports Arena as early as eight years old.
My dad had Tommy by The Who on eight track, a quadrophonicsystem. I played that until the sides bled and overlapped each other,
which is very strange and disheartening. I still collect music and buyrecords. But I have an iPod too. Records are too heavy to carry around!"
Currentactivities: "I live a quiet, simple life. I work at a publisherdowntown in San Diego and also do freelance graphics at home. I have aneighteen-year-old daughter and a two-year-old son. It has been a winding,
twisted bumpy road to get here. Getting older has its rewards. And it'san inside job. The stuff, the music, the people – comes and goes... andcomes back again? The Che blog has been quite a flashback."
David Ellison, vocals/guitar, The Rockin' Dogs
Role within the scene: "In the early to mid 80s, the people in myband (The Rockin' Dogs) were all in our late teens/early 20s. Likeeveryone else, the way we looked at music was shaped by what we'dexperienced so far up to that point. Because of punk rock, mostly,
people wanted to create original music and be part of a music scene.
And along with punk rock came an interest in older, more obscure rockand roll from the '50s and '60s. Lots of old music was being reissuedthen for the first time, so younger musicians were discovering it. Mostmusicians who were even just a few years older than us weren't so muchinto that, and had a different perspective on music. We made an effortto go out and meet other bands who we thought we'd have something incommon with, so we could play shows together. It turned out that therewere other bands, as well as other people who were really into music,
who were similar to us in the way they looked at music and life ingeneral. Like-minded people tend to gravitate towards one another, so amusic scene started coming together that way."
Reaction to theChe Underground blog: "I was involved from the beginning with that, soit's great to see the blog growing and getting more attention. The bestpart of is being in contact with a lot of people I haven't talked to ina long time. People are spread out all over the world, but the internetmakes it easy to keep in contact...and even to work on new musicalprojects."
A favorite story from back then: "The mostinteresting thing besides the music were the people involved. I can'tthink of any particular stories, but it was by far the mostinteresting, creative group of people that I've seen come together atone time. It was the right time and place for that to happen... I don'tknow if it could happen now."
How music has affected his life ingeneral: "Music has always been a huge part of my life. The people I
gravitate towards have always been people who are very into music inone way or another, so most of the people I know have that in commonwith me."
Current activities: "Nowadays, I'm an art director andgraphic designer. I love music just as much as ever, and I'm involvedwith creating new music with some of the same people."
See Also:
- The Anti-Britney: San Diego Punk Rockers from the '80s
- Johnny Rotten: The Listening Post Interview
- One Man's Quest to Digitize and Publicize Rare Records
- Video: A Punk Rock Paean to Microsoft Outlook
- Punk Rock Webcaster Serves Listener Headcounts to Advertising Suits
- Radiohead Makes Business Plans the New Punk Rock
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